Intelligent Design (5): Natural Selection And Mental Health | Richard Dawkins & Randolph Nesse
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Intelligent Design: Evolution by Natural Selection, Death and Mental Health. Part 5 of the interview with Randolph Nesse from “The Genius of Charles Darwin”, presented by Richard Dawkins.
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Randolph Nesse is the co-author of “Why We Get Sick: The New Science of Darwinian Medicine” (along with George C. Williams).
Richard Dawkins is a British ethologist, evolutionary biologist and popular science author. He was formerly Professor for Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University. He was voted Britain’s leading public intellectual by readers of Prospect magazine and was named one of Time Magazine’s “100 Most Influential People” for 2007.
Dawkins came to prominence with his 1976 book “The Selfish Gene”, which popularised the gene-centred view of evolution and introduced the term “meme”. He is a prominent critic of creationism and intelligent design. In his 1986 book “The Blind Watchmaker”, he argued against the watchmaker analogy, an argument for the existence of a supernatural creator based upon the complexity of living organisms. Instead, he described evolutionary processes as analogous to a blind watchmaker. He has since written several popular science books, and makes regular television and radio appearances, predominantly discussing these topics.
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fancy opening a …
fancy opening a discussion on why?
same i gess we were …
same i gess we were dsaying the same thing differently
Allright man, thanx …
Peace be with you
Allright man, thanx for the convo
ok but what people …
ok but what people see is part of the most complex and powerful part of you it can do all kinds of thing to you
Yeah, that’s what …
Yeah, that’s what I’m saying, it’s in the brain. The visual cortex is the part of the brain that interprets the data from the eyes. When that is impaired, you’re blind. People who have impaired visual cortex’, however, SEE during their near-death experiences.
my point is that …
my point is that seeing is more than just eye its in the brian and no rule is not broken by something or can be
No. Some things …
No. Some things that happen DISPROVE a theory about the reason for such thing to happen. But how is your argument related to blind people seeing despite impaired visual cortex’?
not every thing …
not every thing gose by the general rule of thum like what you were talking bout they are the one out side that general rule
Wut?
You are most …
Wut?
You are most certainly allowed to re-frame that statement, because I could not at all understand your point.
not every thing you …
not every thing you have said in your life has one or 2 thing out side the general rule like those so if that if why you’er fucked
all hogwash. …
all hogwash……..
>if you’er blind …
>if you’er blind you still have the part of the brian that lets us see
Even those born blind because of a destroyed visual cortex see during an NDE. What about that?
if you’er blind you …
if you’er blind you still have the part of the brian that lets us see
seeing things is a two part thing they have the main part you need the one that put the photo together
How does something …
How does something being supernatural equal to it being beyond our understanding? You may certainly elaborate on that one
No, because if an event CANNOT be explained in materialistic terms, then it is by definition supernatural. Doesn’t make it inauthentic; rather, it makes the metaphysical hypothesis ‘materialism’ invalid. You are basically being dogmatic about your belief if you can’t see that.
Read more here:
ufoskeptic(.)org/grossman(.)html
Peace
WHAT A GREAT DR.
WHAT A GREAT DR.
Supernatural …
Supernatural basically means that it’s beyond our understanding. If you’re able to rationally explain it, it’s not supernatural.
Labelling something as supernatural IS close-minded, because it rejects all other explanations in favor of a lack of one, and then blocks any further study.
The only evidence you could have for the supernatural is a lack of evidence for the natural. It’s difficult to observe NDEs because there are many factors involved that can’t be replicated in a study.
As far as evidence …
As far as evidence goes, here is a short summary of why there is ample evidence to see NDEs as afterlifish rather than hallucinatorish:
nderf(.)org/NDE%20Med%20Explicable(.)htm
And, as a sidenote, while NDEs DO disprove Christianity (just like fossil records), they also support the God-hypothesis, as many deep NDEers are told about, and some even experience, a single creator being.
Peace
Actually, there is …
Actually, there is a lot of evidence that it IS something supernatural going on. And see, here is where your prejudice shows: “…which is a lack of a real explanation” …? A supernatural explanation can’t be a real explanation? Why not? It’s not like science = materialism. That’s tremendously closed-minded thinking, mate
I know that NDEs being supernatural doesn’t imply Christianity nor God. In fact, much of what NDE research tells us goes straight in the face of Christianity.
Occam’s Razor. …
Occam’s Razor. Studies are going on, theories are being formed, but there is no evidence that it is anything supernatural. It’s hypocritical of you to ask for evidence and yet you choose the supernatural, which is a lack of a real explanation.
Your logic is “science can’t yet explain it, therefor it is supernatural and confirms my worldview”, which is wrong. Even if NDEs were somehow supernatural, that doesn’t mean that Christianity is correct, or that God exists.
Got any evidence of …
Got any evidence of that claim? How does it explain blind people seeing, and people seeing things way off their bodies position in space, and then live to tell about it?
Do some research!
That’s just …
That’s just chemicals in the brain. Many drugs (like LSD) can also set them off.
“a theory that …
“a theory that changes as often as I change my clothes”.had tweeks
Ahem, you must have very dirty clothes then. Evolution has changed in minor aspects a handful of times over the last hundered years.
It has inspired genetic algorithm in programing to find the best solution to prolems, it has been used to design better anti-biotics. And, physics has been used to make nuclear weapons.
What people do with knowledge does not discount it as invalid.
>Show me a body of …
>Show me a body of extra-biblical evidence that points to the existence of god
Near-Death Experience research! Enjoy
in the u.s., in the …
in the u.s., in the business of ‘professional’ wrestling an alarming amount of performers have died under the age of 40. many deaths are related to alchol, drugs, steroids etc.
is it fair to say that this is natural selection at work? killing off the weak (ie those with inferior gene pools), so to speak?
forgive my ignorance if this is not the case and of course i do not wish death upon anyone but one must admit there is a pattern.
You misunderstand …
You misunderstand how science works. There is no one “conclusive” piece of evidence for anything.
Evidence, gathered over years, independently, from many fields of science, all point towards the age of the earth, the inheritance of physics features, the inheritance of behaviours, the genetic similarities/differences, … I could go on.
They all point to evolution being the best explanation for life on this planet.
Show me a body of extra-biblical evidence that points to the existence of god